Clear but still yellow

[baz657]

A car presented for test with clear headlamp lenses & yellow headlamp bulbs. It is fitted with white front position lamps that are incorporated in the headlamps. Would this pass or fail mot test?

[nitros44]

Pass

[Gaz]

Pass

[David]

Fail on Posistion lamp colour possibly. A clear lamp is colour dependant on the bulb fitted nowadays like this....

[aylesburyjock]

And so we are going to fail this white position lamp bulb because.............?
Pass

[David]

Dec 23, 2014 12:34:43 GMT 1 aylesburyjock said:

And so we are going to fail this white position lamp bulb because.............?
Pass

Because.....

Info: Two front position lamps must be fitted, one on each side and show a steady white light to the front (or yellow if incorporated in a yellow headlamp)

RfR: e. shows a light other than red to the rear and white to the front (or yellow if a front position lamp is incorporated in a yellow headlamp)

I'll add that if the lamp or the bulb is masked in yellow the lamp emits yellow...

[aylesburyjock]

Well I suppose on a technical level you may be able to use adversely affected by another lamp. Other than that, I would say it is incorporated in a yellow headlamp, so if overshadowed by the yellow light so you could not tell it was white then that would still pass. Certainly food for thought though.

[stealth]

Pass & advise IMO. The headlamp BULB is yellow, but the headlamp isn't, so the sidelight is not incorporated in a yellow headlight.

[David]

Dec 23, 2014 13:11:48 GMT 1 stealth said:

Pass & advise IMO. The headlamp BULB is yellow, but the headlamp isn't, so the sidelight is not incorporated in a yellow headlight.

Mmmm so if the headlamp is yellow how do you know the bulb is white? The headlamp bulb is white in a yellow headlamp. I'd consider the colour to be testable and not the origin of the colour if that makes sense..

We may have un-covered another area for improvement..

[stealth]

Dec 23, 2014 13:19:10 GMT 1 David said:

Dec 23, 2014 13:11:48 GMT 1 stealth said:

Pass & advise IMO. The headlamp BULB is yellow, but the headlamp isn't, so the sidelight is not incorporated in a yellow headlight.

Mmmm so if the headlamp is yellow how do you know the bulb is white? The headlamp bulb is white in a yellow headlamp. I'd consider the colour to be testable and not the origin of the colour if that makes sense..

We may have un-covered another area for improvement..

Well it's certainly not a black & white case, it's another grey area so if in doubt..........

[android]

I not sure there is any problem here;

Two front position lamps must be fitted, one on each side and show a steady white light to the front (or yellow if incorporated in a yellow headlamp).

But the original poster said the lamps are white with yellow headlamp bulbs fitted, thus the position lamps being white.

[David]

Dec 23, 2014 13:29:47 GMT 1 stealth said:

Dec 23, 2014 13:19:10 GMT 1 David said:

Mmmm so if the headlamp is yellow how do you know the bulb is white? The headlamp bulb is white in a yellow headlamp. I'd consider the colour to be testable and not the origin of the colour if that makes sense..

We may have un-covered another area for improvement..

Well it's certainly not a black & white case, it's another grey area so if in doubt..........

I'd Fail black bulbs

[phaetonott]

If the lens is coloured, the position lights will show as coloured, and if that colour is yellow it's a pass.

The lamp is clear so the sidelight bulbs show as white, pass. The headlamp bulbs are tinted yellow, Pass.

It offends my artistic eye, but I can't fail it for that